Dave P: I don't much like the surveillance society either, but it's never caused any trouble for me, or indeed anyone I know. When I I've only ever seen one or two guns in my entire life and frankly I'd rather keep it that way, and I do value my freedom, indeed. On the other hand, I don't live in London.

Believe me, the USA and Britain are pretty much the same in terms of freedom. They have their ups and downs. All this omg-we're-more-free-than-you (which happens on both sides, hell, more often on our side, actually) doesn't particularly help anyone.

Er...hope that proved you wrong? Or something.

Wah.

If that's the Honey I Shrunk The Kids playpark at Disneyworld, I've also sat on that ant. :p

(Nice "Them" reference, Mr Pudifoot.) ;)

I'll just be over there, hiding under the table...

I think, after working it out on paper, that it's the German who owns the fish. (he also drinks coffee, smokes Princes, and lives in a green house.)

Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water...