JenDiggity: What about the poor plants that we kill instead?
Humans raise animals, then we cook and eat them. There are more cows alive today, because of man, then there was 1000 years ago. The environment doesn't factor into it.
If you think eating meat is evil, then fine, just say that. But don't make it sound like we are killing all the poor cows in the world and soon they will be extinct.... and this will lead to an environmental disaster.

By the way, I am going to go enjoy a T-Bone now. Take care :-)

// I will become a vegetarian when you teach a carrot to say "moo"

Well, I normally don't do these sorta things, but i figured I would try this one out. Besides, I want to support neatorama. :-)

p.s.: Is anyone else having trouble logging in? For some reason it seems to log me in ok, but when i go back to neatorama, I am no longer logged in.

SAdGirl:

By what measure are we getting dumber? Far more people per capita can read today than in 1952. We are better at a larger variety math. We are able to understand technology better.

There is far less racism today than in 1952. I am not saying there is no racism, but I am white guy married to a Vietnamese woman, and I see almost no hatred towards us. I don't think the same would be said in 1950.

There are a thousand other ways that people today are better educated, better behaved, more tolerant, more open minded. So please, enlighten me. How are we 'dumber'?

Am I the only one that is amused at the timing of this post? Posting an "I like Ike" commercial as Hurricane Ike is destroying the Texas cost.

Otto: You would be correct if the entire quote was "It was a dark and stormy night". Perhaps you will more fully understand when you read the full first sentence:

It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents--except at occasional intervals, when it was checked by a violent gust of wind which swept up the streets (for it is in London that our scene lies), rattling along the housetops, and fiercely agitating the scanty flame of the lamps that struggled against the darkness.
-- Edward George Bulwer-Lytton, Paul Clifford (1830)

Nekura Scramble Black&Multi please.

Thank you for another fun game! :-)

(Please pick me, you wonderful random number generator!!!!!)

CJ: you don't typically wound with a shotgun. Wounded people tend to sue. When you aim to wound, you are more likely to miss. One missed shot could cost you your life... shot guns aren't the fastest gun to reload. This isn't a movie. You aim to kill. Aim for the body mass, and take them down... it is the smartest thing to do all around.

Kiki: Wow! Thank you! Lots of people tried to make this complicated, but you managed to cut through all the muck.... it is murder plain and simple. We don't know what was going on in his head... we don't know if he feared for his life... we don't know if he meant to shoot them in the back or if they turned around at the last moment. But he shot them in the back, so it murder plain and simple.

You are an idiot. A dangerous idiot.

Maybe you wouldn't have felt the same if it was your house. Maybe you wouldn't have felt the same if you were in the house that they robbed. We have the right, as humans, to protect our property. We have the duties as neighbors to watch out for each other. They scumbags were trying to steal someone's hard earned stuff. Have you ever been robbed? You feel victimized. violated. ashamed. scared. NO-ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE OTHERS FEEL THIS WAY.

Terry: I am glad you live in that country too.

Well said, Crudely Wrott.

Violet: Where do you draw the line? Do you are the raper was lonely and just wanted a little sex? Do you also say that the child molester was confused, and after all he is human?

When a person's house is robbed, it is not only the objects in the house that were stolen that whey are upset about. They feel violated. Betrayed. They feel unsafe. No-one has the right to make people feel this way. And when you do, you should be ready to face the consequences, whether that is jail time or death.

Ted: You haven't seen my stereo.

He did know they were criminals. He did know they did obey him when he told them to freeze. He is not a trained cop, nor is he a trained soldier. Maybe he was, he would have reacted differently. Personally I think if I am pointing a gun at someone and they don't do what I say, then they are dangerous.

I would never shoot someone to disable. I will never point a gun at someone that I am not willing to kill. A "disabling" shot is just asking for trouble. You shoot you the main body mass, you are most likely going to stop them, and they will stop being a danger. Besides, dead people can't sue you.

My stuff,and my neighbor's stuff IS worth protecting. We work so that we can work hard, and have nice stuff, and if we are not willing to protect that, then we might as well just give it away.

Ted: A tip, don't take my stereo. It's nice, and I am willing to kill any thug that attempts to take it. You are right, my stereo is equal to a robber's life.... my stereo is worth more.

If a person is willing to break into my neighbor's house, they are willing to break into mine. If we don't stop them, they will continue to break into break into peoples house.

And did he know the these guys were not going to go back into the house? Did he know that no-one was inside? did he know that they were unarmed? No-one here knows for sure what was going through this guy's head, but you are all willing to call him a murderer.

Do not forget, that these were illegal aliens with long criminal records. And now these worthless scumbags will not ruin anymore lives.

Holy cow, you guys on the "he's a murderer" side of this argument are scary!

The two guys were both illegal aliens with a long criminal records. But thanks to Joe Horn they won't break into any more houses, or commit any more criminal acts.

As for "ak", neighborhoods that get a reputation for killing burglars are less likely to be robbed. You don't think criminals are smart enough to know a good place to rob vs. a bad one? Then you are a bloody idiot.

We have the right not to live in fear. We have the right to keep our hard earned stuff.

Chet: you don't think that crime rate in texas might have something to do with it being on an unsecured border with mexico? oh wait... you don't think

To all of you that think this man is a murderer:

Where do you draw the line? How many times do you let you and your neighbors get robbed? How much robbery, murder and rape do you allow before you say "no more"? When do you say "No! I will not be victimized. I will not be forced to live in terror. I will not let the slime bags of the world to take away my right to live in peace"

I think it is very easy for you to say "oh he is a murderer", but if you found out your daughter was in that house, I bet you would change your tune.

This is America, people. We should be allowed to protect ourselves. And who cares if it was his neighbors house? If you don't make a stand, than your house could be next! He very well might have been in fear of his life... maybe not immediate, but he may have feared that his house could be next... after all if one house is an easy target, than maybe the next house will be too.

I would be proud to have this man as a neighbor... because i know one thing: It will be a long time before another house in that area is robbed.

Scramble please (Black+multi)! Thank you for another chance to win a cool watch :-)

I hope you all have a happy 4th!