I'm personally way more aggravated by adults having loud, negative, and boorish conversations (cell phone or otherwise). I try to take deep breaths and the like but I was raised in a house where manners and being considerate of others were treated as gospel. It drives me insane, thank god for the "quiet car" on Amtrak trains. Children can be awful on planes if they're not being supervised by the parent. I was on one flight, minding my own business with my Bose headphones on, when a lone little toddler came up to me and vigorously coughed open mouthed in the direction of my face, about a foot away from me. he then proceeded to make cute faces as he rubbed gunky fingers on my armrest. That is not fair, seriously that is an avoidable behavior and children must be parented or someone else will do it for you. The truth of the matter is that if you CHOOSE to have children you need to keep them reasonably in control or at least you need to be seen to be making an effort to control them. That is the distinction, if you don't try it makes people think you are willing to rob them of their time/happiness/life. And that is what makes the world an uglier place. If you CHOOSE to own a dog you need to teach it not to jump on people or scold it when it does. It's all the same..... it really is because no one cares that you have a kid. Good for you.
Translation: I'm not going to address the actual point of contention but instead I'm going to insult you in hopes of derailing your argument.
The truth of the matter is that if you CHOOSE to have children you need to keep them reasonably in control or at least you need to be seen to be making an effort to control them. That is the distinction, if you don't try it makes people think you are willing to rob them of their time/happiness/life. And that is what makes the world an uglier place.
If you CHOOSE to own a dog you need to teach it not to jump on people or scold it when it does.
It's all the same..... it really is because no one cares that you have a kid. Good for you.