Go Where? Sex, Gender, and Toilets

Restroom signs say much the same thing all over the world, but the way they say it says a lot about how view the differences between men and women. Why are women so often depicted as wearing skirts? And why do we have to use separate bathrooms anyway?
Women’s and men’s washrooms: we encounter them nearly every time we venture into public space. To many people the separation of the two, and the signs used to distinguish them, may seem innocuous and necessary. Trans people know that this is not the case, and that public battles have been waged over who is allowed to use which washroom. The segregation of public washrooms is one of the most basic ways that the male-female binary is upheld and reinforced.

As such, washroom signs are very telling of the way societies construct gender. They identify the male as the universal and the female as the variation. They express expectations of gender performance. And they conflate gender with sex.

Link -via Metafilter

A sign is never just a sign. The whole purpose of a sign is that it signifies something. Of all the things to call meaningless, why choose an object that has no other purpose than conveying meaning?
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Genebunny, you shouldn't even attempt to reply to vonskippy. He's a bitter, angry, hopeless troll who craps on everything that neatorama posts. He really needs to get a life.
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Inner city clubs seem to going the route of unisex bathrooms. It allows you to put all the plumbing into a single room, avoids line ups women, and avoids over complicated issues transgender club goers.
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A commenter at Metafilter nailed it by saying that the reason we segregate bathrooms is not because of predators, but because of urinals. Men don't want random women seeing their junk. Get rid of urinals, install more stalls, and you really don't have to segregate bathrooms.

Of course, one-holers need no segregation. I remember a conversation between my old boss and a colleague:

Guy one: Back when I worked at yadayada, we yadayada in the mail room...

Guy two: You had a male room? We just have one, but it works for both male and female.
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I'm with you, Miss Cellania. They should just put up more stalls and have a single room. We don't typically have different restrooms in our home for different genders and it's not weird or gross.

In a lot of places here in my area, malls and stores and libraries and such have been putting in a male bathroom, a female bathroom, and a family bathroom. The family bathroom is for all genders and mixed gender groups (like a mom with a little son or a dad with a little daughter). I hear they are also a fairly comfortable option for transgender folks,too, since you don't need to pick male or female or be hassled about your choice.
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>As such, washroom signs are very telling of the way societies construct gender. They identify the male as the universal and the female as the variation.

I don't see that at all. Why is wearing a skirt an inherent variation on being a person? Both images are dress styles, neither is inherently a person. The article points out a few interesting issues with the way gender is constructed, but I think they are really stretching in a lot of places. Also society treats Trans people pretty horribly, but I think public bathrooms are not nearly as serious a concern as other things like threats of violence.

I think that the issue with a unisex mega spaces with stalls would be that many women would likely be horrified when virtually every time they had to sit, then first had to wipe the pee splatters off the seat (unless women pee all over seats too, I have no experience there.) I consider the regularity of utter revoltingness of the seats a factor as to into whether I really need to poop in a public place.
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@nemo

I've heard the horror stories already coming from my female friends visits to women’s washrooms. They swear that women can be even grosser then men. Things mentioned like tampons and pads clogging the toilets. Gender has nothing to do with individual cleanliness.
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My husband used to tell me horror stories of the mens restrooms at GM. He said they were incredibly filthy, feces smeared on the walls and floor, urine everywhere, etc. Most womens restrooms I have been in are rarely dirty. Sure, someone might not bother to flush or they've flushed a pad down and plugged it but nothing compares with his stories.
But my biggest issue with same sex Multiple toilets in restrooms (I am not talking about a unisex, one toilet restroom) would be safety. I would not feel safe using a stall with men in the restroom at the same time.
And one last thing: Because most women (there may be some, I don't know) do not use urinals to pee into, I think there should be at least a 3 to 1 ratio of toilets favoring women. There are never enough toilets at public places for women to use and we have to sit down whereas men can stand up and use a communal urinal.
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Just don't think of it as a Gender Sign, but as a Sexual Sign. The dude in the pants means you have an XY chromosome and the chick with the skirt means you have an XX chromosome.

Trolling aside, the reason why they are separate is because of what Miss Cellania said: urinals. If those were to go away, so would the sex separated bathrooms.

But if they were to get rid of those and combine the bathrooms, I, along with many other men, would probably be upset because we would be losing our express lane that the male society has gotten used to.
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@sandyra

The only time I've seen communal urinals were at older ball stadiums and older public beaches, and both were disgusting.

Urinals are usually separate, and the process is faster is because guys don't dilly-dally.
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I work in a cultural institution where we have gender-separated restrooms. I can tell you that there is not one inch difference in cleanliness between the two toiletgroups. Behind both entrances from time to time we do wonder (yet often definitely do NOT want to know...) what in the world has happened there so fitly groce and raunchy it has become within thirty minutes. And it does not matter if it is a bunch of schoolkids, or some governmental ceo's or a gathering of cops or religious employees or whatever that has visited our facility - they all can be as filthy as the next- no general difference whatsoever.

The time females spend in the restrooms is on average about two thirds to three quarters longer compared to the males. That alone would be enough reason to have separated restrooms.
Yet we find also that females use restrooms differently from males. Males just get in there, do their business, wash hands and split. Females use the restrooms not only to do their toilet-business, but also to freshen up, do their make-up, redo their hai, sometimes even to change their clothes or just to rest and retake themselves before they get back into their activities. For females the restroom often is a place to have social interaction. If males have social interaction, it can be for shady deals, do punch eachothers lights out or to have same-sex contacts. But mostly males do not have or even try to avoid social contacts in the restrooms.

Those are all reasons why there is logic to gender-separation of restrooms.
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Ironic that male is the norm and female the different, when biologically, female is the default, and male the variation.

I like family restrooms and changing areas, because it makes it easier to share a locker or bag with my husband, even if we do have to put up with other people's children.

Women also take longer because every time we have to remove a lot of clothing to take a pee, and have to completely re-dress to exit the stall. Women being much more critical of other women than men ever are.
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Load of hooey.

I remember when bathrooms used to be for men with two legs and men with one leg wearing kilts.

THe assumption that the image is showing male as the norm and female as the variation is a prejudicial assumption.

Funny when the ivory tower academics have to grasp at straws to justify their existence.
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Has nothing to do with men not wanting women to see our junk - If it did, why haven't I ever seen another mans junk in a bathroom?

For those calling for more stalls, consider the logistics - stalls are far more expensive and take up more space. How about women stop being such prudes and just have a sit down pee trough?
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Y'all are so simple minded. If any of you have kids I am ashamed to hear this nonsense. Why would you want your 10 year. Old or younger daughter sharing a restroom with a man. Or a man portraying a women. I'm all for equal rights but if you can't stick to a gender its not my fault. Your identity crisis shouldn't be my familys problem. If u stick to one gender use that ones bathroom
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some toilet signs are in good humor but ther must be a gender seperation for toilets. men using urinals gives a speedy turnaround for toilet users, unfortunatly women have to sit down rendering a urinal useless for women. large sotial events like festivals, racemeetings etc they should increase the amount of toilet cubicles so the womens ques would be reduced.

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Gender-separated restrooms are a must especially for us females, because of the privacy it gives us. I wouldn't like it if I'm doing my thing while men are swarming around in the restroom doing their thing. It's gross and I don't really think it's safe.
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