Why Dawn?

Dawn dishwashing liquid is to go-to soap for cleaning up birds and animals caught in crude oil spills. Wildlife rescue groups swear by it, and have for years. They say it cuts the crude without doing harm to the animal. A company representative says it's a delicate balance of surfactants that make it so effective.
What the company doesn't advertise — and these days is reluctant to admit — is that the grease-cutting part of the potion is made from petroleum.

"To make the best product out there, you have to have some in there," says Ian Tholking of Procter & Gamble. He says less than one-seventh of Dawn comes from petroleum.

"To say Dawn's horrible because of this, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense," he says, "and that's what we're trying to avoid. Because we're not trying to do something evil here."

"I think it's extremely ironic," says Martin Wolf, a chemist for Seventh Generation, which makes a dish liquid without petroleum. "Here we are trying to squeeze every last drop of oil we can out of the Earth, and it's despoiling the Earth. And we're using that same product that's messing up the Earth to clean it up."

Wolf says his company sent a truckload of oil-free detergent to the gulf, but he hasn't heard whether anyone has used it.

Proctor and Gamble donates supplies of Dawn to animal rescue operations. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127999735&sc=ipad&f=1001 -via Holy Kaw!

(Image credit: Elizabeth Shogren/NPR)

many, many products have petroleum in them. This Seventh Generation company may be targeting Dawn, but Dawn is very far from being alone in that category.

If you think petroleum's the debil, fine, but I think shining an unpleasant light on Dawn isn't the answer. They have an effective product and do good things with it.
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No issue with Dawn from me. Thanks anyway, Mr. Wolf.

Oil is everywhere (erg, especially now, thanks to BP).

Thing is, it's time NOW to discover or invent an alternative. I think the sun is our answer. Go solar!
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You can't clean it up with water...it takes something that "attracts" or attaches on to it. It's called fighting fire with a very small fire. Give me a break. If it's cleaning up animals and such, and isn't making people sick like the other "biodegradeable" products they're using, I say no fuss. Seventh Generation's argument is like saying, "all-natural is better." Lest we forget, ricin is "all-natural."
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Seventh Generation is just as dirty as Darn. It has chemicals the same as Dawn does. It really irritates me that they're able to pull one over on consumers. There's no definition of "natural" when it comes to products. Heck, arsenic is NATURAL.

Try Dr. Bronner's Magic soap. It's CERTIFIED ORGANIC.

Orangic has specified definitions BY LAW.

Compare Seventh Generation's dishwashing liquid: http://www.seventhgeneration.com/files/assets/pdf/msds/English/Hand_Dishwashing_Liquids_MSDS.pdf

To Dr. Bronner's Baby Mild (free) Soap: http://www.drbronner.com/DBMS/OLBA08/BabyMildLiquidSoap.htm

Notice there no preservatives or additives in the Bronner's soap vs. the preservatives and additives in Seventh Gen's.
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I have used Dawn to remove diesel fuel. Some sort of "helpful hint" I had seen. It works great. I knew why it worked.

Petroleum has become a bad word. When it has really just become a "blanket" word, for people who really want to make something sound worse that it is. Just like the word "nuclear".

Many items are derived from petroleum. Some are even used to process ingredients used in Twinkies, like the vitamin b3.

BTW-I had tried seventh generation to clean up diesel fuel and oil from clothing. Took two washes, it was still there, then I just went and used Dawn. S'rsly.
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Unless otherwise indicated on the label, it is safe to assume that ALL soaps have oil in them. The same goes for any lotions or creams, and many other household products we use from cradle to grave.

While I am in favour of moving away from oil-based products whenever possible, for now, petrolium continues to be a ubiquitous force in one's life, whether or not one owns a vehicle.
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As any novice organic chemist could tell you, 'like dissolves like'. Therefore, it makes sense they would use Dawn to clean up petrol. However, as pointed out earlier, using plastic bottles and petroleum-containing products is not helping alleviate our dependency on fossil fuels.
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I've volunteered with the International Bird Rescue Research Center, one of the organizations taking the lead in the care of birds in the Gulf. They've been caring for oiled birds since the 1970s. They've tested just about every potential cleaner you could imagine.

They are not likely to "experiment" with untested bird washing techniques in the middle of a crisis. They'll use their time-tested protocols, which include the use of Dawn. (In the past, untested products might be tried out on dead oiled birds.)

As a friend just commented, "they need bird-washing, not green-washing."

For more on this:

http://www.ibrrc.org/dawn_alice.html

http://www.ibrrc.org/gulf-oil-spill-frequently-asked-questions-2010.html
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Practically everything has some oil in it. Certainly that computer you're using, and unless you're sitting on a log, probably the chair you're sitting in. Even if it's made of wood, the varnish was probably made with petroleum.
There is no inherent evil quality in oil. In fact, it comes out of the earth. It's as natural as a tree.
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@nihil

I don't think your comments are moderated because you are speaking out against a large corporation, rather, you're comments are being moderated because, well, you comment like a spambot. But I can see how you'd like to think the former.
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Yes, oil is harmlessly used in making many everyday items and necessities. And cleaning birds.
But oil is hugely wasted on transportation, heating, electricity. These are the biggest users of oil and can be transformed.
Time for an oil change.
Unfortunately, that wont happen soon because there is still so much profit to be made.
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