Today is Blog Action Day, an annual event in which participating bloggers post about a particular issue to raise awareness and trigger global discussion that will - hopefully - bring about positive change. This year's topic is climate change - which, shall we say, is a wee bit controversial.
We'll get to some Neatorama-worthy posts on the blog today, but first I'd like to ask YOU what you think about global warming/climate change. Do you believe that it is happening? Or is it just a passing hysteria, much like the concern over global cooling in the 1950s to 1970s?
[poll=14]It's an open mike - let's hear your opinion.
there's very little dispute that global warming/global climate change is real. there is a lot of empirical evidence to back that up.
so the first question is whether this is caused by or exacerbated by industrial carbon emissions, or whether it is part of some natural cycle. now, here again we have evidence in comparing the current swing to the existing historical record and finding something unprecedented. this points strongly to a human cause, but maybe there is something we don't understand about natural swings in climate that isn't encompassed in the historical record.
ultimately, that's supposition. based on what we do know, the strong, strong implication is that this swing is caused or "helped along" by human generated carbon emissions. most of the responsible reactions to these changes tie into other concerns like sustainability and energy independence anyway, and really shouldn't be particularly controversial.
Our aim is to raise public awareness about the little gestures we could do in order to preserve our habitat.
We think that we should get the biggest communicators talking about it. But Who are they? Brands.
Imagine if giants such as Coca Cola, McDonalds, H&M and others would incorporate climate messages in their advertisement campaigns?
The impact would be huge - millions would be able to read about the little gestures that are needed to save the planet.
Just like Hopenhagen & tck tck tck: Time for Climate Justice, that are trying to get citizens to put pressure on their leaders, we are trying to gather citizen support in order to convince brands that they should also get involved.
We created Addsmore.org: an initiative to convince brands to add climate prevention messages in their ads such as "turn off your electronic devices", "recycle your garbage", "use less hot water", and of course "350".
How can people help us? By writing on their hands, arms climate preservation messages and send to us the pics - either via http://www.facebook.com/addsmore and/or http://www.twitter.com/addsmore
Once we get as many pictures as possible we shall send them to all big brands and try to get to use their advertisement space... just for the planet!
A volcanic eruption puts out more pollutants than man does in 100 years.
We certainly are making things worse for ourselves due to impacting the QUALITY of the air... but when it comes to Global Warming/Cooling/Climate Change and whatever they're calling it now... We've gotten a bit full of ourselves by pretending that we can: Predict any long term patterns beyond our short term occupancy on this planet and rely on old data when accuracy is only as good as it is now.
I'm far, far more concerned about all the crap in the ocean, (dead zones, the Great Pacific Garbage Patch) overfishing, overfarming, eradication of natural zones and life, overpopulation, toxic waste, the garbage we generate... than I am about the weather. Which, in the year almost 2010... we still can't predict more than 3 days in advance, throughout the year, with consistency.
I'm no right wing shill nor am I a hippy. I don't deny that we have some impact, I just don't think we're the only reason why anything happens and we're the only ones who can "fix" the problem. ALMOST everyone has valid points, but we're vastly overlooking bigger problems by freaking out over the weather. FYI, last year was Chicago's longest, coldest winter with record amounts of snowfall. I noticed that during this winter, which actually reached quite far south in the form of ice storms, that the terms mutated from "Global Warming" to "Climate Change." Climate changes occur on a longer scale due to influences much bigger than us. Like... the SUN, for example...
I could go on, but then I run the risk of being another tl;dr neatorama comment.
Well, after quite some time now the authorities had to admit that nothing was reduced. These zones are total nonsense but it cost a lot of money. Our tax money, of course. Thanks a lot! I'm really pissed of by this debate.
Recently native Norwegians were interviewed about the melting of their glaciers. Well, they didn't even understand why they were asked. It's totally normal. Actually they expected an even faster melting.
Sorry, but I believe it's all scaremongering.
When has developing efficient practice ever hurt?
I mean honestly the people who are railing against the idea of man made global warming are almost always not even proper scientists themselves.
Here are the facts ladies and gentlemen whether you like them or not. The Earth's climate is an incredibly complex system that is difficult for even the most intelligent of climatologists to fully understand. That said, don't you think that it makes more sense to listen to these experts as opposed to the ramblings of an internet conspiracy nut? Or the guy on TV who doesn't even have a proper education in the field?
I read a lot about climate change but I don't really understand the complicated mathematical sciences behind it. And the fact is neither do you. This is why we listen to "experts" in the field.
Because they actually understand it better than us.
That's really all it boils down to.
Here’s my post for Blog Action Day:
http://selfdestructivebastards.blogspot.com/2009/10/wake-up-humanity.html
Everyone else go make one too!
The current climate is not sacred. The earth has been both warmer and cooler in the past, and these changes had nothing to do with human activity. IOW, there are natural cycles (sun activity, ocean currents, changes in the earth's orbit, etc.) that have been affecting climate for a very long time.
I've been following this story for a very long time, and it's clear to me that the people who promote the idea of anthropogenic global warming have been ignoring some key evidence. The very fact that they try to shout down opposition -- rather than address their arguments -- shows the weakness of their position.
Fortunately, AGW skeptics are finally starting to get more media attention.
Images of calving glaciers are evidence of climate change only, not evidence that people are responsible for it. A huge part of the public does not make this distinction and are being fooled every time they see it on TV.
Over the last 30 years in Antarctica, a peer reviewed paper published in the Geophysical Research Letters
by Tedesco and Monaghan, 2009 says that the melt this year was the lowest yet.
I realize that anecdotal weather events, either warm days or snowy nights, are just that - weather.
CO2 can and does warm the planet, but the affect is less than critical. It's the amount and effects of that change that's under dispute. The upper atmosphere is monitored for warming, and while that has shown a slight change, it hasn't shown the signature change it should have, conflicting with most global climate models.
The rest is politics and fearmongering.
"...the warmest year recorded globally was not in 2008 or 2007, but in 1998.
But it is true. For the last 11 years we have not observed any increase in global temperatures."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm
Even if you do not think climate change is real, are you ready to take the risk of not doing anything about it?
I sure am not.
Humanity doesn't like change unless they absolutely haven’t to after screwing up big time and putting themselves in a bad situation. Oil companies will keep drilling until they have dried up that resource because they feel that if they don't, somebody else will. Sure there are external factors to climate change, but I agree that humans can be contributor to those changes and effect the environment around them. It's not bad to look at ways to reverse negative effects happening to the planet then to further them, is it not?
Is Climate Change real? YES
Is Global Warming real? (as in the term the media use to scare people) NO
The Gulfstream is standing by!
The only thing global warming will increase is the size of Al Gores fortune from selling carbon credits and government coffers from tax and trade swindles.
Global temperatures have been going down since 1998. This is indisputable fact.
People are in hysterics about global warming, such that it has become like a religion to them. The problem is that that religion worships death and poverty (the only two things that can really reduce humanity's carbon footprint).
And honestly, you're going to leave a blog because only 2/3rds of the people believe the way you do? I guess you live in a walled compound.
No, wake up people,it is being used to scare the masses into accepting the cap and trade emission trading scheme, why is every large American/transnational corperation on board?
Exxon/mobil touts it as real for heavens sake!
I agree with quite a few. The question is flawed. Climate Change and Global Warming are not synonymous.
I mean honestly the people who are railing against the idea of man made global warming are almost always not even proper scientists themselves.
I cant believe you are saying that when there is an endless parade of celebrities,musicians and politicians trumpeting global warming, some of which are being paid.
My post for Blog Action Day is here on my "Learn Something New Every Day" blog: http://lsned.com/370
Basically, I'm dishing up some supporting evidence that the climate change is part of natural cycles, and human impact is minor. One interesting fact is that in the mid 1800s, when we started recording temperatures, the northern hemisphere was at an 8000 year low, so teperatures have nowhere to go but up.
Look at it this way and tell me if you TRULY think climatologists can be seen as completely unbiased: The climate change monster is what has made climatology as a science matter and be prestigious (if that term can be applied at all here). Climate change has the gravy train coming in for these people and they are loathe to give that up- for the truth or not. Heretofore difficult to obtain research money and grants are now rolling in for these guys and nobody is going to say anything to upset that lifeline. Anybody who disagrees will be squashed by their colleagues and have their career endangered. The climate change brouhaha was engendered a social climate where it is unpopular to look at it critically. I'm sure these same climatologists, if asked, would deny farting in public as well (even though some of them do)because it is socailly unacceptable. Are we to beleive them on that as well?
The point is, we have influence. Why not do good things with it? What's wrong with not polluting? What's wrong with saving habitat? What's wrong with efficient energy? What's wrong with wanting clean water and air? Who cares if it affects global temperature? Are people just angry because they don't want to feel like they're being blamed for messing the world up? Grow up, and do the right thing simply because it IS the right thing!
Climate change happens as part of a normal cycle, not due to human interaction with the environment.
Global warming is not widely accepted by scientists as reported and stated by many. Their is a ton of contrary evidence. I think it is just one more way for researchers to get an inflow of cash for research, so they will say what is needed to keep the cash cow flowing.
Just because scientists agree on something does not always mean they are correct. The cause of most stomach ulcers is a perfect example. Prior to bacteria causing the problem, scientists firmly believed in many other causes and ridiculed the person who first suggested otherwise.
RW
The public is quite far behind where the science is on this question. A survey of scientists done this January found only about 3% active in climate science still question whether greenhouse gas emissions caused by human activity are a major reason for global warming:
http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf
I've done my own digging on the question of what scientists think, which you can review on my website listing climate scientists and those who've signed public statements either for or against the position that humans are impacting the climate (and that we thus need to cut emissions):
http://www.eecg.utoronto.ca/~prall/climate/
I also found that climate "skeptics" make up only around 2 to 3% of scientists who are widely published and/or widely cited in this field.
Why is the general public so far behind the science on this question? It's likely some mix of the inconvenience of the news and unwillingness to face the changes it calls for; a lot of active P.R. campaigning by industries that see themselves most likely to be inconvenienced, namely big oil and coal (much of that P.R. funded by careful money laundering through foundations and "think tanks"); a small number of vocal "skeptics" willing to speak out against mainstream climate science, and actively promoted by an online network of contrarians including bloggers, talk radio and cable news; and finally, a bad habit the media have of framing any story as a "debate" and inviting one 'pro' and one 'con' "expert" - giving viewers or readers the mistaken impression that scientists are about evenly divided on that question.
Take a look at the listings on my site, ranked by number of publications on climate or by number of citations by others of that author's work, and see for yourself where the climate 'skeptics' stack up against the mainstream scientists.
Climate change = Hole in the Ozone 2
The hole in the ozone was caused by aerosol cans that used chlorofluorocarbons as propellant. Using CFCs was stopped on a worldwide scale and replaced with less-damaging hydrochlorofluorocarbons for aerosols. So, yeah- nobody stopped using harispray (actually, I know some who did, so that claim of yours is false) because they swapped out the bad stuff.
There is climate change all the time, but the real fraud is Gore and his kind pushing their junk science with lies and missing data for lots of money!
Obviously 'global warming' is real. The question you SHOULD be asking is are we to blame?
Well with blogs spewing out hot air like this, I'm starting to think so!
Based on all this, none of which is speculation, the answer to whether people are causing global warming is obviously yes. There is the vast majority (upwards of 98%) of scientists who can see this basic teleology.
For those of you who deny it, I would love to see what scientific evidence you have for the non-absorption of carbon dioxide, the change in basic chemical behaviors, the lowering of carbon dioxide by man, or the magical pixies that are blocking this chain of events.
here's a link to the segment:
http://ohbrotherradio.com/post/213577450/thursday-october-15th-threes-a-crowd-on
The UK's winters are starting to get colder and the country is getting wetter. What the problem is at the moment is we (as the human race) seem to have made it more severe and the changes quicker.
Its all politics and fear-mongering,nothing new there it was happing in the Roman empire.
You must forgive me for being sceptical but the sky has been falling for as long as I've been alive:
Global Cooling
Aids epidemic
Bird Flue
Y2K
Sars
Swine Flue
Gee I'm starting to get the impresssion someone is trying to scare me.
umm- thanks- looks like I've wanted to say that for awhile! ;) (In the interest of continuing friendship, I haven't...)
I agree completely. There is definitely a human factor that accounts for it. My point is that in order to dispel the myths of those who oppose curbing global warming effects (for whatever ridiculous reasons) why not argue that at the least taking action is a movement towards making things run more smoothly. If we can combat the effects of global warming while we're at it then double win.
My comment is just a response I've always had to give people who think global warming isn't happening. Oddly, I find that they don't have much more to say after that. :)
Our dirt is called 'pollution' -- it's still dirt.
We throw it in the air and the air changes. Doesn't do what it did before. That being, filter sunlight, etc..
He have way less than 200 years of accurate temperature taking and even less for regions that is not populated by humans.
We cannot claim anything is caused by humans until we can understand how our weather works. We barely can predict what weather is going to be like in 5 days let alone 20 years.
In the 60's it was called Global Cooling. Now it is called Global Warming. It is neither. It is called Climate change and it happens everyday and we can do nothing to stop. We have survived ice ages and warm periods in time.
We are not the only planet warming. We have been watching the temperature on Mars for decades and it is warming as well. This can easily be attributed to the increasing amount of sun spots appearing on the sun in the past 100 or so years.
Global Warming is nothing more than a billion dollar business hyped up by the UN and employing millions.
From a more philosophical point of view:
Are we to be held responsible? NO! Why? Well, because we are not even able to do that much harm.
Even if we wanted to... We couldn't!
As many of my previous speakers said, how dare we think to be superior to nature?
I don't know... but if we could do some real damage, wouldn't we be detained from it somehow?
I think the important thing to remember is that it is by no means a settled question.
Undeniably, as the BBC article above states, we have been cooling for ten years, and are expected to cool for at least another ten years. Mention this to the average person on the street, and they'll think you're crazy.
Mother Nature does what Mother Nature is going to do.
A real honest to goodness hoax.
we also live in an ice age, which while it has been fluctuating up and down for a couple hundred thousand years is only a blip on the scale of the 4 billion year old earth. the vast majority of this planets history has been spent without polar ice caps.
They are cashcows for governments.
Co2 was never the problem. Just pray for the sun to wake up soon
our sun is the black hole of the future it would seem, how far or how near in the future i cannot predict.
our solar system in terms of the cosmos is nothing but a tiny piece of energy that periodicaly pulses and contracts, to us this seems like eons, to others this maybe nothing more than a blink of the eye.
Genesis 8:22 -
“While the earth remains, Seedtime and harvest, Cold and heat, Winter and summer, And day and night Shall not cease.”