Here's something for you to ponder the next time you're in the bathroom: American's love for soft toilet paper is ecologically hard on forests!
... fluffiness comes at a price: millions of trees harvested in North America and in Latin American countries, including some percentage of trees from rare old-growth forests in Canada. Although toilet tissue can be made at similar cost from recycled material, it is the fiber taken from standing trees that help give it that plush feel, and most large manufacturers rely on them.
Customers “demand soft and comfortable,” said James Malone, a spokesman for Georgia Pacific, the maker of Quilted Northern. “Recycled fiber cannot do it.” [...]
Though most of the pulp comes from tree farms, but not all:
Although brands differ, 25 percent to 50 percent of the pulp used to make toilet paper in this country comes from tree farms in South America and the United States. The rest, environmental groups say, comes mostly from old, second-growth forests that serve as important absorbers of carbon dioxide, the main heat-trapping gas linked to global warming. In addition, some of the pulp comes from the last virgin North American forests, which are an irreplaceable habitat for a variety of endangered species, environmental groups say.
That said, I buy cheap tp. It's usually not that comfortable, but I don't really care.
A SIMPLE LIFE IS POSSIBLE, UNCOMFORTABLE BUT ECOFRIENDLY
Lol
There are more acres of forest in North America today than there were before the white man arrived 500 years ago.
//damn tv commercials, now my butt knows it can make calls on purpose.
"..including some percentage of trees from rare old-growth forests in Canada."??? What percentage?? .00001??
Tree farms in South America and the United States specifically grow trees (fast growth trees, BTW) for producing this.
It doesn't help if you go overboard on the reporting, enviro-reporters. There's enough stories about environmental damage without going nuts about it.
And some of us Americans use both paper and bidet.
You soft headed little gits can spew all the eco-agitprop you want, but keep your d@mned grubby hands off my toilet paper, climate controls and food stuffs. I'm not interested in being proselyted by a bunch of gaia worshiping Ecohovah's Witnesses.
toilet paper doesnt totally clean ur ass
I'm willing to make do with the harder paper. It's easier on the septic system and much cheaper.
News flash, recycling may make you feel good, but aside from keeping trash out of the landfills, it actually uses more energy to produce (poor quality) products than if you used virgin materials.
Pulp forests are fast growing and consume large quantities of carbon dioxide. And until they can be replaced by hemp fields, they're the best option for paper.
And stop whining about old growth forests, the damn hippies destroyed the timber industry in Oregon because of the spotted owl and its supposed old growth habitat. Old growth forests are full of rotting trees, thick under brush, and are disasters just waiting to be sparked off by a lighting strike or an inconsiderate tourist.
Goober, everyone is untitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.
"There are more acres of forest in North America today than there were before the white man arrived 500 years ago."
Really? You may be right, but could you provide a source for that statement? Having seen the steady spread of development and urban sprwal over the last few decades I am sceptical.
Second alternative is to buy a High Tech Jap Toilet: http://larve.net/people/hugo/pictures/2001/05/06/jp_toilet
Heated Seat with heated high pressure water and then a nice air dry system to leave the bum clean.
Leave it to the japs to keep thinking of better solutions while we work on the next generation 5 layer lotion safe for a bear's bum TP.
It's enviro-friendly and stops local kids from climbing in your garden.
Attitudes have to change. Imagine if all of Asia started using whitened paper too.
Nobody uses old growth virgin timber to make paper. It's just too valuable. And half rotten.
Pulpwood is grown specifically to turn into paper.
If I want to squat, crap into a hole in the floor and hose my ass off I'll move to the third world.
Which is where we'll all be if these enviro-whackos have their way.
ask them hehe
so glad the global warming nut jobs did not run away with this thread