Swedish Vodka maker Absolut is stirring up a little nationalistic pride in Mexico with their new ad depicting what Mexico would look like in an "Absolute World". But it is stirring a few feathers in El Norte, that's for sure:
The U.S.-Mexico border lies where it was before the Mexican-American war of 1848 when California, as we now know it, was Mexican territory and known as Alta California.
Following the war, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo saw the Mexican territories of Alta California and Santa Fé de Nuevo México ceded to the United States to become modern-day California, Texas, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado and Arizona. (Texas actually split from Mexico several years earlier to form a breakaway republic, and was voluntarily annexed by the United States in 1846.)
The campaign taps into the national pride of Mexicans, according to Favio Ucedo, creative director of leading Latino advertising agency Grupo Gallegos in the U.S. Ucedo, who is from Argentina, said: “Mexicans talk about how the Americans stole their land, so this is their way of reclaiming it. It’s very relevant and the Mexicans will love the idea.”
But he said that were the campaign to run in the United States, it might fall flat. “Many people aren’t going to understand it here. Americans in the East and the North or in the center of the county -- I don’t know if they know much about the history. “Probably Americans in Texas and California understand perfectly and I don’t know how they’d take it.”
Link - via AdPulp (who said "Lou Dobbs is now totally switching to Grey Goose.")
I love Absolut ads in general. Very creative.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aztl%C3%A1n
wetbacks? try occupators =)
So, we stole it from Mexicans, who stole it from the Aztecs, who stole it from the Toltecs, who stole it from the......who gives a shit?
Ole!!!
Because you have some sort of cultural heritage tied to the finding of the first government of Colorado, it becomes the spark to piss you off? Don't get so full of yourself.
Shit happens. Did you know at one point in Medieval Europe there was over 100 countries, maybe more? I guess we should start a campaign to bring back all the lost worlds, and reorganize all the borders for them. Should we bring back Rome and Carthage? Or how about the kingdom of Burgundy? Maybe we should restore the Ottomon empire, or the Mongol empire. Better yet, let's bring back the Sumerians. It's really annoying how people use that map as an argument of manifest destiny but never consider the fact that 1) they could be of Spanish decent and therefore have no say, or 2) could be from an indigenous tribe which may have been responsible for the annihilation of another tribe.
Amen!
Anyways, I'm getting really tired of the US bashing lately. It's like no one ever wants to consider that maybe the US wasn't the first to the role of Imperialist occupier (not that that situation is what happened with the western states - those were won in war, and I'm betting if Mexico had won that war and maybe claimed some northern lands they wouldn't get viewed like the US does for it). Has no one the time to read any history books?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:New-France1750.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram
After we won the War of Independence in 1836. So even if the Mexican-American War had not occurred, the borders would not have looked like this. Texas won independence fair and square. [Actually, not fair, since often, the Texian army was 1/10th the size of the Mexican army, and General Santa Ana (Mexico) often killed prisoners in cold blood.]
It doesn't bother them going back to who originally owned what thousands of years ago.
Offending most of America seems like a pretty stupid marketing campaign.
The ridiculous thing is that if the ad had been the United States flag over the entire continent it would be seen as egotistical and offensive.
The people who think this whole issue of La Raza (racists who want Mexico to take control of parts ot eh U.S.) and the illegal problem really need to take a trip to Mexico and see what it is these people want our country to become. It's not being racist or intolerant to recognize that Mexico is seriously a craphole and the parts of the U.S. that are being overrun with Mexican citizens are turning into crapholes, too. People who think otherwise can't possibly live anywhere near these areas or they'd be as alarmed as those of us who are.
This ad is not funny. It's incredibly offensive and I will NEVER support this company.
And no one stole anything. IF the Mexicans would have won you better bet they would be drunk right now celebrating it, and calling it a victory and not them stealing anything off us.
No, what we have is a bunch of sore losers still after centuries.
As offended as you all are getting regarding the jab Ucedo made at everyone west of Texas, he's right. So many Americans can't even tell you when the Declaration of Independence was signed; why would they know about some war with Mexicans?
This is actually a cruel ad lol.
What a bunch of sour bastards.
end of story
@rdubs
this is an AD, it's a surprising concept, I know, but and ad doesn't equal a threat. I find your comment rather confrontational specially coming from someone who claims to be "antiwar".
@Patricio
That is exactly the irony of all this crap hah that the tru "owners" of all these land are now dying out.
@DW
Wouldn't trade my "beautifull, rich, bountifull and corrupt country full of poor people" country for your "arrogant, cultureless, soon to be in recession, full of bloodthirsty war making people" country. Heh overly stupid generalization vs. another just as stupid generalization, see, works both ways :)
Wouldn’t trade my “beautifull, rich, bountifull and corrupt country full of poor people” country for your “arrogant, cultureless, soon to be in recession, full of bloodthirsty war making people” country. Heh overly stupid generalization vs. another just as stupid generalization, see, works both ways
Yes, generalazations are hard to avoid and I know I sounded offensive but that was not what I wanted to convey, but bottom line: Why has a country so fricking rich never managed to make it over third world standards? The only conclusion I can come to is: It;s the people running the joint, and as I said the U.S. probably isnt far behind:)
O you havnt heard well let me tell you they are building this fence to keep illigals out or maybe to keep the US citizins in ones martial law is in accted anywho they are building in peoples properties by telling them to sign over there land and shit like that, but at the same time they are going to skip some very rich peoples properties espacialy people with ties to the bushes
SO if you want to learn more go here http://www.turnmaineblue.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=839
this is just one but they are all over if you look for it
O one more thing if you guys remamber the battle of the alamo as well as i do then you might recall that texas was part of mexico So does that make the guys like sam houston that fought in the alamo terrorist?
sorry for the misspeling in a hurry so gato go :P
Other than that I find it amusing how much chagrin such an ad can cause. It's obviously a massive success: the campaign is polemic and will draw partisan sympathy from all sides. However, it is somehow interesting to discern how it is sooo wrong to "bash" the USA, but some of the people who seem to have an issue with that don't seem to have a problem "bashing" Mexico. Food for thought, folks, food for thought.
A si, y para la raza: ya no anden lloriqueando. Ni queremos, ni necesitamos el terreno al norte. Mejor fijense en quien se esta comiendo nuestro pais, que no son los gringos, sino nuestror propios politicos. Como Santa Ana.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/First_Mexican_Empire_Map.png
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:M%C3%A9xico_Divisi%C3%B3n_Pol%C3%ADtica-Rep%C3%BAblica_Central.png
Why are american people so many times "crazy"? An ad is just an ad... It is just fiction...
Planck2023
Because you don't understand (and people like you) what the concept of "surrender" means, of course that is outside of US, and is why exactly, issues like the war over Iraq will continue indefinitely.
Clueless Jen
1.-La Raza = the people, and is not a group of racists (Good God!), 2.-if Mexico is a craphole, I wonder why so many babyboomers and springbreakers from US keep coming beyond the border to this craphole of a country 3.-And is only fear and prejudice what you are talking about, and that's all
And only for the record, Mexico don't need the region beyond Rio Grande amigo, if I was stupid enough I would get angry for stuff like Gary Jenning's "Aztec" or Mel Gibson's "Apocalypto" or everytime Hollywood presents mexicans as "craphole".
And for everybody else, think... just think, it's just an ad campaign, Plank2023 and Gaby are ABSOLUTE right, and DW brought me back some confidence in human kind, guess not everything is lost
I'd thought this new generation would surpass issues like this one.
And to understand some of the mexican psychic you need to read some books (including history books): El laberinto de la soledad y Tiempo Mexicano
By reading these books you would probably understand why an ad like this would become succesful in Mexico and rather the opposite in US.
Salute!
If santana was in charge in mexico, at the time of the america vs mexico war, then that means that spain was still in control of mexico, I still not sure why so many people think mexicans where the ones with the idea of a war when then where being oppress in there own country at the time.
Santana was not mexican he was a spaniard, he ignore the mexican generals in some of the battles that other wise could have had a different outcome & in the end he run away like a coward.
Gral. Pedro María Anaya
There are many things to talk about to be constructive.
Im mexican and i like the us but for live there is a bad country a lot of hate hate hate.
Remember all you need is love.
Why are u crying!!
You must admited that is funny thats all!!
http://rapidshare.com/files/106111567/Absolut_Boycott.pdf.html
And this is just a stupid add, mind you! Imagine Mexico actually changing its name to Texas and amending its constitution to include a clause calling for the liberation of their "Northern brothers".
And the Bush administration was the first to recognize the FORMER YUGOSLAV REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA as a sovereign state - only because the Oil Consortium wants to built the AMBO pipeline through their territory...
So, if ever Texas or California get sold back, you need not look further: probably some Oil Conglomerate wants to avoid some taxes...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J87406ioGms
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'Sooos .... un perdedor!! you are a loser baby, so why don't you kill you'
because fucking gringos invaded mexican territory,while the nation was still weak from recent indepency war ¬¬
stupidos gringos, so as i see it they DID steal it, and no t to mention alaska was part of mexico once too, in fact mexico also had its maximum territory from alta california(vodka add) to panama/colombia borderline
fuckers!!!
If the English, French or the Spanish took over the former Mexican territory (California, Texas etc..) instead of the U.S , Most of the Americans will say that it is wrong & it’s against the international law or come up with a way to condone it. But when they violate the sovereignty of another country by invading it, they consider it to be the right thing to do!!!!
Grow up stupid idiots & get a life instead of being a pain to the rest of the world!!!!
so, this should of been a Tequila add which would be more the bomba jajaja
cuando asuma la presidancia martin primero de mexico
de tendencia centro izquierda catolico y 100% guadalupano lo que no entienden los gringos