The Duggars are Expecting #20

Jim Bob actually home churches, based on Quiverfull and Gothard teachings. In these belief systems, women do not have a real say in anything. They are to offer complete submission to the husband, who has all the say in decisions.

Also, they support the Pearls, the ones who publish the books about beating your children into submission. Part of this is training your children to always be happy, to always be smiling, to be anything else is to be disobediant. Those smiles are hiding a lot of brainwashing.

Ted, I've never seen the show. We can't get it over here. Is there any evidence of her not wanting to have all these kids? That should be a genuine concern. I assume child services (or whoever) are aware of them though.

If there is a reason to believe she is being pressured into doing this in any way then your point of view is perfectly valid and I agree with you 100%. But in the absence of said evidence, saying there is no valid reason for them to have so many kids is just as controlling an attitude.

Mitsy, you seem to know a lot about them for someone who doesn't like to watch them. You're part of the problem, you know. They don't care if you object to them, as long as you keep watching the show.

Sindigo, I got the point - it wasn't that difficult to understand. I think you missed my point. It's really the same damn issue. Is this woman making the choices in her life over her own body, or is her husband making the choices for her? It could be like eating potato chips. Once you eat one, you've gotta have another - 20 kids is such a nice round number, but 21 is like Blackjack (think of all the cute jokes), and so on, and so on...

I suggested that this woman has the same amount of control over her body that a woman has who is forced to get an abortion or forced to give birth to an unwanted child. And that is: none.

Like a polygamous wife. Who in her right mind would choose to live in that situation? And yet they do...

I've been writing and posting about this delusional family for years now. They are the reason Christianity can & often does get a bad rap due to their extreme fundamentalist stance about spewing out as many babies as they can. I've also been vocal that when you have grown children (and now TWO grandchildren), it's time to shut down the baby factory. Michelle Duggar basically ignores her grandchildren because she's so caught up with having more & more of her own. It's like the whole issue with Josie being one pound and so pre-mature has been forgotten in their minds. They aren't smart enough to maybe realize that God is saying to STOP. Playing roulette with your life is not honoring God nor is it doing any favors to your very big existing children. Michelle isn't raising those kids--the older siblings are. I also think Michelle has a pregnancy addiction. Seems no interviewer wants to ask her about that.

More people need to email them & tell them your thoughts. I've also emailed the Today Show for promoting this pathetic couple who are pimping out their family on TV. It's not the kids' fault--it's Jim Bob & Michelle. They are the ones who are screwed up.

Ted,

I think you may have missed the point of Floorman's post. It think he's saying that there aren't as many voices in support of this woman's rights to however large a family as she wants.

We may all see this as excessive and we may vilify the media for making a circus of it but it's their right to have as many children as they like.

Good for her, I say.