Mr. (or Ms.) vs Dr.

This is something I've never encountered before. Apparently in some parts of the world, notably in the UK, surgeons are referred to as "Mister" or "Ms." instead of "Doctor". Minnesotastan ran across a literary reference in which a surgeon was offended when called "Doctor." Commenter Phyllis says:
Yes. In the UK, surgeons used to be LESS THAN doctors (who were educated and gave out medicines and didn't get their hands dirty like those plebeian surgeons).

Even though they are more like the US now, where they are doctors PLUS extra training, it seems that the term has persisted.

Now I wonder about other countries. How do people refer to medical practitioners and surgeons where you come from? Link

(Image credit: Flickr user  Salim Fadhley)

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I'm in Australia - a few years ago I had a knee reconstruction, and during a consultation with the surgeon I referred to him as 'Dr Henderson' and his assisting surgeon leaned in and whispered 'It's MR Henderson'! Well, I'm sorry!
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Am currently a med student in Australia and its like that here too! The general public calls surgeons Dr, but within the medical profession itself they are referred to as Mr. Its sort of a reverse snobbery thing to set themselves apart from "normal" doctors.
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In Mexico everyone has a title. Doctors are obviously doctor, but anyone with a college degree is Licenciado, accountants are Contador (accountant), and teachers, musicians, master craftsmen (plumbers, construction workers, mechanics, you name it) are all Maestro.
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In France, we say Dr for any student passing a Doctorate (PhD) which corresponds to 7 years of studies completed by a thesis. Surgeons are Doctors with a specialty.
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I saw exactly the same thing about a week ago, except there was a model car with the hood open instead of a model tractor. I can't recall if it was on Neatorama or Digg, but the video looked as if it might have been captured from a kid's show like Sesame Street. So, this may not be original.
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I remember something like that in the movie "Top Secret". It was a telephone, only the telephone was huge and far away and the scene was shot to make you believe the phone was regular size and close to the camera. Until someone picked up the oversized phone.
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This technique goes back about 100 years. It's been used for placing miniatures or paintings into movie scenes before the invention of the optical printer, and even much more recently. It's very easy to do, as long as you have a lot of light, which creates the long focus area so everything from a few inches to infinity is in focus.

I used this technique in my teenage moviemaking days. A friend stood on a ladder far from the camera and a crashed spaceship model was placed right up in front of the camera, so it looked like he was climbing out of the top hatch of the ship. Those were the days!
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Here's an entire website of stills using the same technique. It's been around for at least 4 years..but I know the idea has been around much longer.
http://dubster.com/cars/index.asp?id=419
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Obviously this guy didn't do his homework. A John Deere D is bigger than the relative size of the Mercedes C. For someone wearing and driving the sterotypical professor accoutriments, i'd expect better.
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